- Contributed by听
- U1650494
- People in story:听
- Philip Doran, Joseph Ducat, Terry Ralph, Tom Roberts and Wife
- Location of story:听
- Liverpool, Sandbach, Caernarfon
- Background to story:听
- Civilian
- Article ID:听
- A4254086
- Contributed on:听
- 23 June 2005
This story was submitted to the People鈥檚 War site by Rebecca Hood of the People's War Team on behalf of Philip Doran and has been added to the site with permission. The author fully understands the site's terms and conditions.
I was born in Liverpool on the 14th of 5th 1930 鈥.I was born in Toxteth a rather poor area, lots of unemployment, but nevertheless a rather happy life in my surroundings. I went to a school Our Lady of Mount Carmel and towards 1939 a lot of talk was going on about the war. This was something, as children we didn鈥檛 really understand鈥ut then after the 3rd of September it came home to us as policemen started arriving at the school, fitting us out with gas masks and showing us how to put them on and this all seemed quite a novelty.
After a few months the masks began to shrink and it was very uncomfortable and you were glad to get them off. The children, the babies also had masks which was more like an old fashioned divers suit. The child was placed into it and you had to continually pump to keep it alive. The up to five year olds had a coloured gas mask鈥nd this was known as the mickey mouse mask. It had a blueish colour and reddish nose鈥.but most of the children soon got fed up with this. It was some weeks later when it was decided we would be evacuated.
The place was decided by the authorities and we knew very little about it until the teachers got us together one day and gave us a sheet of brown paper each, a length of string and two labels. The paper was for wrapping your clothes up, whatever you had, tieing them, put one label on the parcel and one label on your coat when you go. Eventually the day came鈥e all mustered outside the school in twos and this long snake line was marched to Lime Street Station. There were hundreds of other children waiting to be evacuated, and eventually we got on a train 鈥hen it came home to us what was happening. There was tears screams, some mothers had made an effort to come down and wave to their children goodbye. Eventually the train pulled out鈥.volunteers aboard the train were going round giving you a couple of sweets, a cup of tea and a piece of cake. When we arrived at Crewe we transferred to a bus and I went to Sandbach - to a village hall. It was rather like a cattle market. People were coming in, examining you, looking at you鈥ow clean you was, how fat you was, how thin you was鈥nd eventually you were chosen and taken away.
I was chosen by a Mrs. Jones and it was on the way home that she laid the law down to me, what I could do, what I couldn鈥檛 do what time I would go to bed and I had to be on my best behaviour at all times. On arrival at the house I found she had a son Donald. Donald had the same kind of effect on me鈥.he treated me as a trespasser nevertheless we eventually got settled in and I lived there for quite a few weeks.
And then there was a procedure where we went down to a small farm to buy vegetables for Mrs. Jones. The farmer was a kindly man and he used to give us a couple of windfall apples. One day I was sent on my own 鈥 Donald had gone off somewhere 鈥 and I went to the farmer, got the vegetables. But it was his wife that served me and I didn鈥檛 get any apples. So on the way back home I met a friend of mine, Joseph Ducat and he lived with a kindly old widow on a sort of smallholding and they had apple trees and everything. And Joe was sitting on the wall eating this apple. I got talking to him, and he said, do you want the core. And I took the core of the apple off him and started eating it and then proceeded on my way back to the house. When I got near to the house I just casually threw the remains of the apple away and went into the house. And Mrs. Jones says to me where are the apples. I said the farmer wasn鈥檛 there I didn鈥檛 get any and with that she went berserk and beat me terribly and my nose and mouth was bleeding and I managed to run out of the house. I went to my friend Joe鈥檚 and showed him and he got a cloth and tried to clean me up a bit and eventually the lady who was looking after him arrived and she said鈥.Oh you can鈥檛 go back there so I said to Joe 鈥淐an you give me some writing paper and an envelope鈥鈥檓 going to write to my mum and ask her to take me back鈥. So I wrote this letter, and I didn鈥檛 even have a stamp to post it鈥.but I put it in the letter box.
It was in the days when a letter would arrive the next morning鈥here were two posts during the day and my mother eventually got this letter. And
Mr. Burgess arrived later and begged me to go back鈥nd he said his wife was very sorry. So I relented in the end and went back to the house and went straight to bed. The next day my mother arrived and she told this lady in no uncertain terms what she thought of her and I was taken back to Liverpool.
I spent some time in Liverpool again and with the bombs and seeing quite a lot of action. And eventually it got so bad that they said we鈥檝e got to get these children out of the city again. So there was another evacuation, only this time we went to Central Station, which was for the North Wales area. Eventually we got on the train and arrived in Caernarfon and once again a little village type hall, and everybody coming and picking you out you know. It was getting on to evening time鈥ou know鈥t looked as if it were getting a bit dark, I remember it, everything was looking a bit hazy鈥. And there were seven of us left there was five relations of mine, cousins, and two local children from home. Then the door opened and this lady walked in and the WVS ladies was explaining to her what had happened 鈥 they had nobody to take these children they鈥檇 probably have to go to the hospital and stop there for the night. Mrs. Roberts said 鈥淚鈥檒l take the lot鈥.
She took us outside and she had this pony and trap with a pure white pony. We all got in with our brown paper parcels, and off we went to Pen Llyn farm. When we arrived there the husband Tom, he was flabberghasted 鈥 she鈥檇 gone to fetch two children, and come back with seven! However he got over this 鈥t was during the next few hours that they wanted to know all about us, where we lived, what religion we were and Terry Ralph wanted to go to the toilet, and he was shown the toilet up in the garden. Terry come back he said 鈥淵ou want to see it Phil, its just a hole in a plank of wood鈥, he said 鈥淎nd you go on this 鈥 and it stinks鈥. Anyway鈥.we realised then it was the only facilities they had. But we were put in this big room and everyone had their own bed, and it was absolutely beautiful and she was so lovely Mrs. Roberts.
Each Friday night she would take us out to the dairy and she would bath us all in this tin bath and we鈥檇 be tucked up, put up to bed so no more talking 鈥 and the light would be blown out. But at the same time, although she was lovely she was a bit wily and she gave each of us a job and I was the herdsman although there were only three cattle there. And you know, although I was young, I鈥檇 taken to milking you know and I was left to do it 鈥 and some of them would put the milk through the creamery鈥hey had a churn there, and we鈥檇 all take turns churning this butter. And to Liverpool kids it was just marvellous.
At the back of the house was these small hills. If you walked over them you鈥檇 get to Deiniolen. They may have been hills, but they suddenly appeared to us to be the Matterhorn and we spent days climbing these mountains.
Eventually we had some very bad news, the teacher had been there and said they鈥檇 arranged for us to go to school in the village. We arrived at the school and were amazed to find they were still using pieces of slate board, and slate pencils鈥.and sometime later a man came there with large parcels 鈥oxes of boots and we were all issued with a sort of canvas mac and a pair of clogs. The macs had these big belts across them, and we all knew about Humphrey Bogart and turned into these Humphrey Bogarts with the collars turned up. And the clogs that we were given 鈥e used to have to go to the local cobbler and have them re-ironed every couple of weeks. We didn鈥檛 realise but this was like having a stamp on your head 鈥渆vacuee鈥 and it was during these times with Mrs. Roberts 鈥 I cannot say enough about her she was absolutely an angel 鈥 When we鈥檇 done all our little jobs every Saturday she would take us to Llanberis to the cinema. I can remember well seeing a film with Paul Robeson there and I think he was singing All Through the Night鈥t was really marvellous I never forgot it鈥ut one day Mrs. Roberts said on a Saturday鈥he said: 鈥淐ome on鈥 she said, 鈥淲e鈥檙e going into town鈥 She took us into town and we got on this train and we didn鈥檛 realise but there was a lull in Liverpool in the bombing and she took us home for this day and she arranged for us all to go home to our individual homes and collected us again in the evening and took us back. And her husband Tom was a wonderful man, but the strange thing about Mrs. Roberts husband was he worked in the quarries and he would come from Llanberis on the bus and jump off and come across the farm. But on a Thursday he run across the bridge and he鈥檇 be into the house, changed into his best clothes and down into Caernarfon to collect his pension. And then he would go to his local pub and he would come home on the last bus every Thursday night blind drunk and there would be the most horrendous rows in the house 鈥he language was blue to say the least! But the next day Tom was back to normal, you would never know what had happened. And another feature was being all Catholic children, we had to go to Mass on a Sunday and it was arranged that we would go to mass in Deiniolen, in the Snooker Hall. And us seven kids used to cross over these hills to Deiniolen and into the snooker Hall and a Father Coffey who actually died in Haverfordwest,as the parish priest there 鈥 many years later I met him in Haverfordwest 鈥 he would serve Mass and we鈥檇 have Holy Communion. And because we had such a long way to walk back, it was arranged that Dr. Marran, the local doctor would take us home for breakfast. And us seven kids went to this beautiful doctor鈥檚 home in the village and there seemed to be no shortage of food, which was natural being a doctor 鈥here鈥檇 be a couple of eggs from here, a bit of ham from there 鈥nd we were waited on by a young girl you know鈥nd I can only say we all became born-again Christians after that鈥here was Communion every Sunday.
After the trip to Liverpool you know the yearning got鈥 bit homesick again. And the others tended to drift away back home, you know. I was the last to leave and as I鈥檝e said before 鈥 was sorry and after I鈥檇 got married 鈥 I married a Welsh girl, after having been stationed in the army in Wales 鈥 and we went to Llanberis again, and Tom had died, but Mrs. Roberts was there and we had the same welcome again鈥.Kisses all round and the best farm meals coming out, best butter and everything鈥.and looking on the shelf I saw this wooden pattern of a swan and it was where you put the butter in this mould and pressed it down with this pattern and when you took the pattern away there was a beautiful swan on the top of it. And it was there, but the days of the butter had gone 鈥.and it was riddled with worm 鈥ut it still brough back all those memories.
I remember playing around Lake Padarn near the farm... Tom had a boat, and we used to play pirates in this boat, and more often than not we sank this boat and spent the rest of the time salvaging it again. Another time Ted Ralph and myself was walking on the water鈥檚 edge and we found a dead sheep and we touched it and it was warm鈥nd Ted said 鈥淚 think its having lambs you know鈥 so it didn鈥檛 occur to us that it was the heat of the sun that was keeping the sheep warm, and we got a piece of slate and decided to operate and get these lambs out鈥. We got them out but unfortunately they were dead鈥..and that鈥檚 one of my greatest memories because I always thought I鈥檇 end up as a vet afterwards.
But the war鈥 things quietened down and everyone was drifting back home, and eventually I went back home 鈥.and I was left with wonderful memories. And I tell my grandchildren about them, and they say 鈥渢ell us more, tell us more鈥濃.
漏 Copyright of content contributed to this Archive rests with the author. Find out how you can use this.


