I had an horrific experienceÂ…
on Tuesday. I parked inÂ… a pub car park... I parked there before and I honestly
didn't notice the signs. There was available on road parking in the street so
I wouldn't have wittingly parked there had I known I could be clamped. However
I admit that I should have been more vigilant. When I returned to my car,
I had been clamped. At first it didn't occur to me what had happened as I thought
the notice on my car was a flyer. I was approached by a man who told me I needed
to pay £125 to be released. It was raining and cold I explained politely
that I didn't have that money on me, that I was undergoing chemotherapy and that
if I remained in the cold and wet I was vulnerable. To cut a long story
short I was clearly unwell and explained how important it was for me to get home.
The man could see I was unwell and distressed. His only concern was the payment.
He wasn't at all helpful or sensitive to my needs. He told me to phone the number
on the ticket displayed on my car to ask if I could be unclamped. This
is all in the pouring rain. I phoned and explained that I needed to get home.
My distress must have been evident to the woman I spoke to. She told me I had
to ask the man as she couldn't help. I returned to his van where there was another
man in the driving seat. He was extremely judgemental and told me that I shouldn't
be driving if I was seriously ill. He refused at that time to give me his
name stating that it was on the receipt I would receive on payment of £125
I told him that I was fit to drive but given the way he was acting towards me
I would ask the police to come and confirm this. I also told him he was a bully.
I contacted the police and advised them of my predicament. I asked that it be
logged as an incident. I returned to the van where the men were sitting I explained
that I'd had the incident re his allegation that I was unfit to drive and their
responses to me recorded. I asked if they'd accept a bank card .They said
no and I needed to get to the bank. By this time I was wet and shivering but much
more composed. I said I'd get the money - on my return my car was blocked in by
their van whilst they were clamping someone else and even though I asked them
to deal with me quickly. I had to wait till they'd completed their task. I
then asked the person who was wearing the id tag to come to my car as I wanted
to take his details. He said they were on the receipt. I replied that given he'd
already denied things he'd said to me, I wanted to be sure that the info was accurate.
Therefore I'd take the details for myself. I also told him I couldn't read
his signature and asked for his name This time he gave it to me His parting shot
in a very nice way was to say if I was going to appeal I should not send the original
receipt but a copy . I told him that he needed to ask his boss for training as
he had no people skills. I told his oppo that he had been well mannered. Given
the rollercoaster that I'm on at the moment I decided to put the experience behind
me as I don't need further stress at this time. My husband is going to write to
the local council and the pub landlord . Since the incident I have been quite
unwell. However,, I would not wish to attribute this entirely to the incident
as given that I'm receiving chemotherapy, I may well have been unwell I do believe
though that the whole experience has been a contributory factor to the fact that
I've been unwell for the last couple of daysÂ… Anonymous I
was watching your programme earlierÂ… a firm conned me by keeping my car over
night and leaving me stranded in the middle of the night with no means to get
home from Solihull to Coventry. Even with the police explaining the situation,
they then proceed to keep my car overnight which is an additional charge of over
£30 which was another way extorting more money. They were very abusive over
the phone and in the end put the phone down on me. The fact of me being
a lady on own in the middle of Solihull meant nothing to them, the sign was not
visible and the police agreed on this. I was told I could collect the car from
Birmingham city centre but eventually had to pick up my car from a service station
on the M42 in the opposite direction. It was not just the cost of the fine
but all the other problems it causes, this needs to be thoroughly investigated.
Ms M C Walker I recently paid £129 to release my car from
a car park in Stafford, where I thought that I had been given permission to parkÂ… I
was horrified when I found the car clamped on my return and my thoughts on the
process that happened after this was: 1. The attitude of the person who
took my call was one of 'it's your fault & now you have to pay for the consequences'
I was quite upset, but there was no recognition of this.
2. I wanted to
appeal to the people who owned the land that I was parked on & put forward
my case, but (the company) would not give me access to this info. Whilst on one
hand, I can understand this (I think), on the other hand I can see no real reason
why this info is not available. I have since, tried to find this info out myself.
3. When the person arrived to release the clamp, he did explain that there
was an appeals procedure, which I decided to follow up on.
4. I rang (the
company concerned), and the same lady as in Point 1, explained that I would have
to formally write in to request an Appeals form (they don't seem to have email??).
I duly did this, and the next thing that happened was that I had a letter from
a Director of the company saying that he understood that I wanted to appeal, put
forward his view and then said that he hoped this would be put the whole thing
to bed. What sort of Appeals procedure is this?? So, I'm really cross with
the whole crappy process which as far as I'm concerned is unprofessional and gave
me the feeling that I was been ripped off. As a consequence, I wrote back
to the Director outlining my side of the situation, and am waiting for a reply.
I don't intend to leave things go that easily, especially due to the reason I
parked in the space in the first place. If there was some regulation, at least
I would know the process that these companies would have to go through. I
would like to know what support/backing there is in a situation like this and
perhaps you could advise me? Caroline Jones I was of a victim
of (a clamping firm) a few moths ago. I parked on what appeared to be a piece
of waste groundÂ… I thought my car had been stolen but it turned out it had
been towed away. There was a very small sign with a phone number which was easy
to miss in the dark. I had to meet the tow truck at a service station on
the M42 the next day to recover the car and pay £295 in cash to two very
dodgy looking men who refused to make eye contact or let us look at the car before
we paid.I found the whole experience extremely distressing and frightening.
I
was lucky to have someone who could take me to the service station which was at
least 25 minutes driveÂ… and not accessible by public transport. I felt quite
traumatised as if I had been robbed and it took me several weeks to get over the
experience. I have avoided going into Worcester since that time. I am shocked
that this company is allowed to act in this manner. I appreciate that I should
not have parked in that place but do not believe that cars should be towed away.
At least if it had been clamped I would have been able to get home safely.
It is my opinion that they tow the cars quickly so that they can catch more unsuspecting
victims.
I would like to know who is granting these people what is basically
a licence to steal money and why there are no strict rules and regulations to
protect the public from these unscrupulous companies.
I was very glad to
see your programme, although it upset me to watch it, and hope that it will spare
others from going through this horrible experience. Mrs J Menhinick I
had my car clamped in (Birmingham) on the evening of 14th December. I had gone
for a meal with work colleaguesÂ…
Thankfully, someone leaving the
restaurant alerted me to the fact before my car was towed away, so I was able
to apprehend the clamper but had to pay £94 to have the clamp removed. The
clamper agreed with me that the sign by where I had parked was difficult to read
being covered up by tree branches and he advised me to write to the clamping company
to reclaim my fine.
I wrote a courteous letter explaining my case but
in the last few days have received my letter back with a scribbled reply on the
top: 'Having visited the site, I regret we are unable to offer you a refund' and
an unrecognisable signature.
Where I parked was a totally desolate part
of (Birmingham) and interestingly, the manager of the restaurant was also clamped!
I intend to contact Trading Standards to see whether this company can be traced.
Thank you for the coverage on Inside Out - it opens a whole can of worms and
I hope you will pursue the evil of car clamping which is simply a law unto itself
and needs legislation to protect the unsuspecting public. Malcolm, Birmingham
I experienced a similar problem on Saturday 13th January - I was charged £94
for parking at a hairdressers salon at 7pm when it was closed.
I was collecting
a Chinese take away!
I was furious! I paid it without questioning - but
think it is immoral. Andrew Lomas I have just watched your programme
regarding the above and would like to applaud you for bringing this to everyone's
attention as this very same instance happened to myself 1 week ago today when
I parked on a pub car parkÂ… for 5 minutes whilst I popped to a cash point.
I do understand that business proprietors become angry when non-customers
use their car park, however the prices being charged and the manner that these
'companies' adopt is totally unfair and should be regulated in some way. If
there is clear, adequate signage individuals such as myself would notice this
and would avoid parking in these places. In this instance, the small signage was
displayed approximately 10 feet up against the side of the pub wall. The
fact that I had to pay £125 to two intimidating, rude men who produced no
identification was daylight robbery for 5 minutes of parking. What I found so
terrible was the underhand way they had executed their 'sting'; they had seen
me park my car, waited until my back was turned and when I returned after 5 minutes
my car had been clamped. After my car was released I demanded a receipt.
To my disgust the receipt had no VAT Reg no displayed and no landline telephone
number; their address was a managed office in Birmingham with the only contact
number being a mobile - almost untraceable. I could afford to pay this
demand however, I sympathise whole heartedly for pensioners/young drivers and
folk who are less fortunate than myself as £125 is an awful lot of money,
some people don't even earn this in a week. After watching your programme
I now consider myself to be one of the lucky ones and I would like to add my name
to the long list of sufferers in pleading to the authorities to regulate this
'extortionate' business. I simply cannot accept that an independent company
can charge whatever they please for non-permit parking on private property. If
I had been caught speeding or using a mobile the fine would be no more than £60
and this would be a law breaking offence considered dangerous. Parking
without a permit in the majority of cases is not dangerous, how can these fines
be justified at over 200% more expensive? This is simply unfair. If this 'business'
is regulated and the fines reduced in line with 'on the spot fines' you never
know we may all see the end of private wheel clampers! My answer in response
to your question this evening was in total agreement that 'Yes, private car clampers
are getting away with daylight robbery'. Karen Davies Below is
a brief description of an incident last week. I left my car parked in a
Birmingham pub car park at 8:00 pm for 1½ hours, during which time I was
a customer of the pub. When I returned to the car park my vehicle had vanished.
I was on the phone to the Police to report it stolen before deciding to try the
number on a sign in the shadows at the back of the car park. I also noticed that
there was no longer a "Patrons Only" sign at the open entrance to the
car park which I had routinely used over the last couple of years. I began
to fear the worst. A lady answering the phone number on the sign told me to ring
a second number. The man answering the second number told me that he had my car
but I couldn't have it back until the following day. The following morning I was
told I would have to wait, at first until 9:30, and then until 10:00. I was told
to recover the car from an address in Birmingham, and that I was to bring £380
in cash only. I had to visit 2 banks to acquire sufficient cash because of the
ATM limit. When I arrived at the address in Birmingham I was met by 4 heavy
youths dressed to intimidate operating out of a white van in a car park. I questioned
the breakdown of the large fee and was told £125 for Clamping, £175
for towing, and 2 days storage @ £40/day. I pointed out that they had had
my car for 12 hours only one lad said that the 2 days were yesterday and today.
This amused the others and I was told quite simply that if I didn't pay I didn't
get my car back. My question to you is, "What should I do now?".
The Police, despite the impression given on your programme, would not enter
into any conversation whatsoever regarding this matter saying that no crime had
been committed and that it was a civil matter. Trading Standards were very sympathetic
and entered a report telling me that it was a growing problem but that they could
not help me anymore than that even though I had documentary evidence in the form
of a written receipt with altered dates and a signature (which took some getting!).
CLS.org told me there was nothing I could do because it was an unregulated industry
and a Solicitor told me he would take the pub landlord to Small Claims Court but
it would cost up to £1000 with no guarantee that I would win and would not
get costs back if I did. This was a cynical act of robbery or car kidnap
for ransom by a company... I had no idea that I was doing anything wrong by parking
my car in a pub car park. Apparently the property owner changed the rules
on who he wanted to park there without telling anyone. I do not appear to have
any rights or protection regarding this situation. It could happen to me again
tomorrow and I wouldn't see it coming. Can I get my money back or do I
just take it on the chin and hope that it doesn't happen again? Ian Davies When
I was clamped in Worcester I took the clamping firm to the small claims court
as I believed the clamping was done in errorÂ… Clamping firms are bullies
and yes it is virtually a licence to print money. Mr P O'Rourke FEEL
WE HAVE A NEED FOR CLAMPERS. NOT TO BE ABLE TO PARK YOUR OWN VEHICLE IN YOUR OWN
CAR PARKING SPACE IS VERY ANNOYING. THERE ARE SOME VERY INCONSIDERATE MOTORISTS
AROUND, WHO THINK THEY CAN PARK WHERE THEY WANT TO WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATION FOR
THE PERSON WHO'S SPACE IT IS. WELL DONE M.P.C. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. IF
PEOPLE CHOOSE TO IGNORE SIGNS AND KEEP THESE COMPANIES IN BUSINESS WELL THEY DESERVE
TO BE CLAMPED OR TOWED! I WANT MY PARKING SPACE FREE FOR ME TO PARK IN! Barbara My
nephew was a victim... (the firm) towed his vehicle from the car parking space
he rented outside his own homeÂ… whilst he was at work because the residents'
pass was said not to be clearly visible. By the time he got home it was
too late to collect the car and pay £295 so a further overnight charge was
made of £30. I accompanied him to a service station with the required 'cash
only' payment. When we complained about the intimidating behaviour of the staff
two 'heavy guys' arrived and unceremoniously dumped our car on the tarmac and
headed off with haste. We realised that they had damaged the passenger
car door before they went. Telephone callsÂ… were met with abusive response.
We are still awaiting a reply to our letter of complaint some 6 months on. Legislation
is urgently needed to stop this sharp practice - even the Police felt powerless
to help us. Tina My mother and stepfather both 68 years of age
visited Cornwall in the summer and in general had a lovely time. Unfortunately
their holiday was tainted by the fact that when they parkedÂ… their car was
clamped. They paid for a ticket for 1 hour and returned to the car under the hour,
however it was clamped (we have the proof). When they phoned the clamping
company… the man turned up and demanded a total of £72 to unclamp them.
He said the ticket was not displayed properly even though they could see it!! He
was a large man with tattoos and to be quite honest he frightened them and they
paid. It is such a pity that their holiday was partly spoilt by this awful
company. Steve Clamped and then robbed - I've just returned (last
Thursday) from a highway robbery. I went to visitÂ… one of a parade of shops
- where the lay-by outside was already double parked. Seeing a parallel road feeding
some council houses just off the main road, I parked there. There were no 'No
Parking' signs so I thought it was ok. On leaving the shop, less than a half hour
later, I found my car clamped. The young man who had clamped the car was
just leaving. He told me I had to pay £352.50! £150+VAT for a parking
fine and £150+VAT for 'the tow-truck cancellation fee'! I looked
around for signs that informed me that I could not park. He just continued saying
I could pay by cash or credit card but there was a 2.8% surcharge if I paid by
credit card. I was stuck between a rock and a hard place. There were no 'No Parking'"
signs. When I asked, the man pointed to some white signs with miniscule
lettering next to a sign which read 'NO BALL GAMES'. Approaching the white sign,
one could see that it said 'Private Property'. It didn't say 'No Parking'. Even
when I physically stepped onto what must have been the private property as there
was a fence I assume denoting this. It was only once I was within a few feet of
the sign - staring up at people's bedroom windows - could I actually read the
sign. If the large lettering on their signs read 'No Parking', I don't
suppose (the company) would make so much profit. The company appears more interested
in making money than actually stopping people parking on their clients land. How
can a company charge £150 cancellation charge? The tow truck had apparently
been ordered and was "on its way". The car had only just been clamped,
the ink was still wet on the Warning Note that had been left on my windscreen.
I telephoned the number on the Warning Note and they cancelled the tow-truck.
It took all of two minutes. How can a company justify charging £150 for
something that takes less than a two-minute phone call? Julie V. Hyland |