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Free hearing aids, fake handbags and the board game cafe

The health commissioners consulting on stopping free hearing aids for those with mild hearing loss and the criminals targeting escrow websites precisely because they are so safe.

Should free hearing aids be stopped for those with mild to moderate hearing loss? Health commissioners in North Staffordshire are asking that very question. And how a reputable payment site is being targeted by criminals, precisely because it's so reliable. We also visit the caf茅 which employs board game sommeliers, game gurus who can tell you the rules and help you pick from 2,000 titles. We'll ask why cheap options for transatlantic travel are becoming increasingly available and the perils of social media for corporate PR teams. How Northern Rail told customers it could meet the manager, then couldn't find him.

Presenter: Peter White
Producer: Kev Core.

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Thu 3 Jul 2014 12:00

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Transcript of our item about NHS Hearing Aids

One of the regional organisations responsible for buying services for NHS patients is considering ending the provision of free hearing aids for people with mild to moderate age-related hearing loss. North Staffordshire Clinical Commissioning Group says it's not possible to fund every available treatment, so it's conducting a review and asking for opinions from the public.

Marcus Warnes is from the commissioning group:

We review our priorities every year. So we basically have a look at what the needs there are out there in the community, we review what we鈥檙e currently doing and then we prioritise based on what the evidence tells us and one of the areas that was highlighted was hearing aids for mild to moderate hearing loss as one of the areas we needed to look at.

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Peter: OK, well one of the people who has grave reservations about the idea of reviewing the situation of people with mild and moderate hearing loss is Molly Berry , of the Association of Teachers of Lip Reading for Adults. Now Molly herself is profoundly deaf although she is able to hear as a result of a cochlear implant. She told me of her concerns about the review:

MARY: You wouldn鈥檛 say to somebody who has mild to moderate sight loss so could no longer read the paper that it was something that didn鈥檛 need help.

PETER: so what is the effect of what we call age related deafness?

MARY: Age related hearing loss is simply a short hand for a thing called presbyacusis and what happens is that you start to lose your high frequency hearing.

PETER: What would you perhaps be doing without even noticing you were doing it?

MARY:听 You would be complaining how young people don鈥檛 speak clearly any more, especially children. You would probably be avoiding social situations really, things like going to the pub, even family parties.

PETER: You say that this won鈥檛 save the health service money, how can you justify that?

MARY:听 Well, if you start leaving social situations then you become isolated. And if you leave getting hearing aids till your hearing loss is severe, your brain has serious trouble adjusting to the sound from a hearing aid. It is via a microphone and a speaker, it鈥檚 still not normal hearing and your brain needs to get used to it. At the mild to moderate stage, that鈥檚 fairly easy for your brain to do.听 But if you go straight in at severe loss and have to have a very powerful aid with a large mould that goes into the ear, it is extremely difficult. People often give up and spiral into depression at that stage

PETER: so is that why we end up with a lot of hearing aids stuffed away in draws rather than in people鈥檚 ears?

MARY: Absolutely you do and this is a problem. If you start early it鈥檚 much easier to get used to it, you don鈥檛 end up with this social isolation that causes all sorts of other health problems. 听And many people are still at work; meetings have become difficult, the phone has become difficult. They may well retire early because of they鈥檙e not treating their hearing loss.

PETER: None the less, local health services do have to save cash, they are strapped for cash,听 what should they be looking at?

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MARY:听 They do get discount on hearing aids for bulk buying, so if they stop doing that the discount will reduced and they will have to pay more for hearing aids. The ideal is that you diagnose as soon as possible you provide a hearing aid and you sign post people towards a lip reading class where they鈥檒l meet other people who also have hearing loss and find out about ways of coping. Private hearing aids can range from 拢500 to 拢2000 per ear. That鈥檚 a lot of money. It isn鈥檛 something that an older person is going to be happy paying out for.

PETER: Well Marcus Warnes from the North Staffordshire Clinical Commissioning group has been listening to that. Marcus, we heard there from Molly that getting a hearing aid when the hearing loss is severe is effectively shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. She says it鈥檚 easier to adjust as your hearing is about to go, what do you say about that?

MARCUS: I guess the first thing I would say is that we haven鈥檛 made a decision yet. So, what we鈥檝e essentially looked at is the evidence and that is a clinically led process. And on the basis of that evidence we鈥檝e said this is an area we need to look at. So the first thing we do is obviously engage with stakeholders and get a view from them. A number of organisations who represent people with听 hearing loss want to come and talk to us about what we鈥檙e looking to do

PETER: And are these the kind of arguments you鈥檝e already been hearing?

MARCUS: Yeah there鈥檚 a lot of this coming out, we鈥檝e got a huge of amount of you know life experience, from people reasons why people think we shouldn鈥檛 be doing this, the benefits they think hearing aids bring them. We will consider all of that, the engagement process finishes at the end ofJuly and we will continue to listen to that before we make any decision.

PETER:听 I mean Molly outlined there the very movingly the very alienating effect of hearing loss. Won鈥檛 this isolate people, giving the NHS a bigger bill in the long run?

MARCUS: Well I can鈥檛 really comment on the bigger bill bit, I mean what we鈥檝e looked at so far is what the current service that we commission costs. One of the things we鈥檙e asking for people to talk to us more about is what are the potential implications of this on future life experiences, impact on other conditions. We鈥檝e looked at all the evidence we can but if there鈥檚 other evidence out there we鈥檒l certainly look at it.

PETER: I think one of her fears is that people think that mild hearing loss is almost a bit of a joke you know 鈥榞ranny can鈥檛 hear very well鈥� is there a danger that you鈥檒l make an economy that turns out to be a false economy?

MARCUS:听 No, I mean we take this very seriously. I think what we need people to realise is that we have increasing demand for services and we鈥檝e got a budget that isn鈥檛 going to be able to cope with that so we are going to have to make some difficult decisions. We have a process whereby we look at what we do and the outcomes that our investments have on patients and people in terms of the health care outcomes and the impact on their day to day lives. This is just one area we鈥檙e looking at.

PETER: So do you have an idea of how much you need to save on this particular thing?

MARCUS: No this isn鈥檛 a financially driven exercise, this isn鈥檛 about saying we need to save 鈥榅鈥� amount of money and hearing aids you know if we stop doing that then that will deliver that saving. We don鈥檛 start with the money we start with the clinical priority.

PETER: But presumably you do know what providing hearing aids for this kind of patient costs you?

MARCUS: Yeah absolutely, mild to moderate hearing loss at the moment costs the CCG around 拢1.2 million.

PETER: Molly鈥檚 points aren鈥檛 all kind of social points. She makes the point that this could be a false economy because the purchasing power of the NHS is very strong and you get good deals on hearing aids by buying in bulk, that鈥檚 the kind of hard business sense you need to hear isn鈥檛 it?

MARCUS: We do get a very good price, Molly鈥檚 absolutely right. I mean the price that the NHS pays for hearing aids is probably not the price you鈥檙e average person who wants to buy privately 听could get one from a hearing aid provider. Now that鈥檚 come out very clearly from the engagement and is something we鈥檒l be looking at. We try and issue our commissioning intentions around September or October so what we鈥檇 like to do is to be in a position to make a decision to inform our commissioning intentions going forward for next year.

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