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A bill proposed by Conservative MSP Liz Smith (pictured here) which could guarantee all primary 7 pupils a week of outdoor learning has been brought back from the brink.

The Scotsman's education correspondent Catriona Stewart and 麻豆社鈥檚 Kirsten Campbell chat with Laura about the bumps in the road it has faced and reminisce about their own school days.

Plus 麻豆社鈥橲 environment, energy and rural affairs correspondent Kevin Keane pops by to tell Laura about why she needs to be on the lookout for ticks in her local park.

Scotcast is the 麻豆社鈥檚 Scottish news podcast, with Martin Geissler, Laura Miller and Natalie Higgins.

Get in touch: scotcast@bbc.co.uk