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Katy Watson speaks to Julie Inman Grant, Australia鈥檚 eSafety Commissioner about the country鈥檚 social media ban for under 16s: 鈥淭o keep kids away until they're ready, I think that is the monumental circuit breaker move that we need to move to,鈥� she says.

Brought up in Seattle, North America Julie has spent her career in the technology sector working for Microsoft, Twitter and Adobe in public policy and safety before moving into government.

She moved to Australia more than 25 years ago and from 2017 Julie has been working on online safety. In her role as commissioner she has become the target of free speech absolutists like Elon Musk, wh have accused of her trying to censor the internet.

No stranger to controversy and abuse, she鈥檚 now the public face of Australia鈥檚 landmark social media ban for children under 16 which came into force in December.

Now countries around the world are considering similar bans as cases of online addiction, self harm and abuse are reportedly on the rise.

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