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It’s Not Always Black and White

Bongi Msimanga and Matt Hodson explore their marriage. Talking love, race and the grey spaces in between.

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Welcome to It’s Not Always Black and White
Bongi Msimanga and Matt Hodson explore love, race and the grey spaces in between.
31 Mar 2021,2 mins
1. Cultural Differences Part 1
Bongi and Matt let you into their marriage and start exploring their cultural differences.
06 Apr 2021,23 mins
2. Cultural Differences Part 2
Bongi and Matt find out what they love most about each other’s culture.
12 Apr 2021,23 mins
3. Fashion and Beauty Part 1
Bongi and Matt discuss how cultures see beauty differently and why hair can be political.
20 Apr 2021,25 mins
4. Fashion and Beauty Part 2
Bongi and Matt get into fashion disasters and why white men should moisturise.
26 Apr 2021,22 mins
5. Great Britain Part 1
Bongi and Matt explore what is great about Great Britain and what isn’t so good.
03 May 2021,20 mins
6. Great Britain Part 2
Bongi and Matt get into British accents and discuss why swearing is just not acceptable
03 May 2021,23 mins
7. Sex and Relationships Part 1
Bongi and Matt explore sex and how their cultures attitudes help shape their marriage.
10 May 2021,26 mins
8. Sex and Relationships Part 2
Bongi and Matt get deeper into their own relationship and confess their dating disasters.
17 May 2021,22 mins
9. Race and Racism Part 1
Bongi and Matt discuss becoming aware of racism and how it's stuck with them as adults.
24 May 2021,24 mins
10. Race and Racism Part 2
Bongi and Matt discuss the use of racist language and how to talk to kids about race.
31 May 2021,28 mins
Football and Racism Special Part 1
Bongi and Matt discuss racism and football after the abuse aimed at black England players
16 Jul 2021,20 mins
Football and Racism Special Part 2
Bongi and Matt talk about players going from heroes to villains at the sound of a whistle
16 Jul 2021,24 mins
Football and Racism Special Part 3
Bongi and Matt discuss how politics ended up on the pitch at Euro 2020.
16 Jul 2021,26 mins
It's Not Always Black & White Is Back
It's Not Always Black and White returns this January with Bongi Msimanga and Matt Hodson
18 Jan 2022,1 min
You Can’t Choose Your Family
Bongi and Matt are back and talk openly about cultural differences between their families
24 Jan 2022,34 mins
The Lord Moves In Mysterious Ways
Bongi and Matt talk about their differing views when it comes to faith and religion.
31 Jan 2022,34 mins
I Never Thought I’d Shower With A Dog
Bongi and Matt reveal just how pampered their pug Winston what their families make of it.
07 Feb 2022,29 mins
It's Tough Talking About Emotions
Bongi opens up about her own mental health and how heart-breaking personal losses hit her
14 Feb 2022,27 mins
Wearing Onesies To Bed
Bongi and Matt get personal than ever talking about love, sex and relationships.
21 Feb 2022,26 mins
What I Don't Understand About Patriotism
Bongi and Matt talk more about racism, micro aggressions, unity and English patriotism
27 Mar 2022,28 mins
Finding Your Tribe
Bongi flies solo to meet a group of black mums to talk about raising kids with your tribe
26 May 2022,39 mins