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Cat Power sings live in the studio. New insurance rules threatening independent midwives: we discuss with a mother, a midwife and Louise Silverton from the Royal College of Midwives. Political commentator Gaby Hinsliff and Laura Perrins talk about the political influence of stay-at-home mothers and whether more should be done by government to support them. Sister Elizabeth Obbard and author Margaret Coles on Julian of Norwich. Presented by Jenni Murray Produced by Steven Williams.