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Does the conflict in Syria mean that the ideas of liberal interventionism and the responsibility to protect are now dead? Edward Stourton and guests examine how the West now sees its role when it comes to waging war to protect civilians. Guests: Fawaz Gerges, Professor of Middle East Politics and International Relations at the London School of Economics; Lord Malloch-Brown, former UK government minister and United Nations Deputy Secretary-General. Researcher: Louise Byrne Producer: Ben Crighton.