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Michael Crick talks to two ministers about being lobbied - with Tracey Crouch and David Willets. Last year the minister for sport and gambling, Tracey Crouch, found herself involved in the messy decision process surrounding what to do about Fixed Odds Betting Terminals - FOBTES. Amid furious lobbying from all sides, Tracey Crouch took the unusual step of resigning rather than accept the timescale for the introduction of a ban. Also in this episode David Willets - now Lord Willetts - describes what went on behind the scenes during the decision to raise tuition fees to a maximum of £9000. The producer in Bristol is Miles Warde