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This week on the podcast, Fi and Jane chat to the Australian writer Liane Moriarty, author of Big Little Lies. Fortunately listener Liane talks to Fi and Jane about her latest book Apples Never Fall, Nicole Kidman's practicality and competing on daily steps with her siblings. Before Liane logs on there's a double debrief, Fi drops a clanger and Jane has had an unexpected animal encounter. Get in touch: fortunately.podcast@bbc.co.uk