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E O Wilson has been described as the "world's most evolved biologist" and even as "the heir to Darwin". But, recently he's criticised what's popularly known as The Selfish Gene theory of evolution that he once worked so hard to promote (and that now underpins the mainstream view on evolution). He talks to Jim Al-Khalili about ants, altruism and evolution. First broadcast on The Life Scientific, 28 July 2015.