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Radio 5 Live,3 mins

Commuter and rail union boss go head-to-head on strikes

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Hundreds of thousands of commuters are once again facing disrupted journeys on Southern trains, as drivers from the ASLEF union go on a 48 hour strike. It's the latest in a long-running row over plans to make drivers close train doors, rather than conductors. Members of the RMT union have already staged a series of walkouts. Regular passenger Kate and ASLEF's Marz Colombini went head-to-head on Your Call. "I don't think using the health and safety argument holds water," she said. "I'm not anti-union, but I am anti a lack of common sense." Marz argued: "There are serious concerns. There's been some horrific incidents and we would not want to see those happen any more." This clip is originally from 5 live Breakfast on Tuesday 13 December 2016

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