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A quiet park in Brighton hosts our latest ramble with Green MP Caroline Lucas. It’s where she brought her dog to take stock during lockdown. She tells Ben how she’s come to appreciate nature much more mindfully than before - and why she thinks we need to look beyond individual choices to tackle the climate change crisis. Plus - we’ll reveal the (small) role Caroline played in giving Little Mix their name. Producer/Editor: Richard Culver Presenter: Ben Weisz