Â鶹Éç

The British Ambassador to Ukraine, Melinda Simmons, held out in Ukraine until 7 March, 11 days after the Russian invasion began.

But she and her team then joined the women and children, blankets wrapped tightly around them, queueing to cross the border to Poland.

She joined Emma Barnett on Â鶹Éç Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour to discuss the current situation in Ukraine, how long she thinks Ukraine can hold for, and if and when she thinks she’ll be able to return to the country.

You can listen to the full interview on Â鶹Éç Sounds, where you can also find any episodes of Â鶹Éç Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour that you may have missed.