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I do believe US military action is a real threat, and the prospect of removing it depends on the ongoing conversations.

The 麻豆社鈥檚 South America correspondent Ione Wells speaks to Gusatvo Petro, Colombia鈥檚 first left-wing president about his fears of US military action against his country. Petro, a former guerrilla fighter turned reformist leader, has been in office since 2022, championing social justice, environmental policies and regional diplomacy.

He responds to Donald Trump鈥檚 recent comments suggesting a military operation against Colombia 鈥渟ounds good鈥� and accusations that Petro himself is a drug trafficker鈥攃laims he strongly denies.

Petro warns that the United States risks moving from global leadership to isolation through what he calls 鈥渋mperial-style behaviour,鈥� following the recent seizure of Venezuelan President Nicol谩s Maduro by US forces. He also expresses his belief that Washington needs a fundamental rethink of power and diplomacy.

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