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鈥淚 do not want the United Nations of New York, Geneva or Vienna to be an ivory tower, a diplomatic ivory tower. I want to see the UN not of power and privilege, but the UN of service and impact. That is the UN I want see.鈥�

James Copnall speaks to Olara Otunnu, Ugandan diplomat, lawyer and former Foreign Minister.

He has spent decades working at the highest levels of international diplomacy. He has also served as a United Nations Under-Secretary-General and Special Representative for Children and Armed Conflict.

Now Uganda has formally nominated him for UN Secretary-General, putting him among seven candidates in the running to succeed Antonio Guterres. It is a position widely regarded as the world鈥檚 top diplomatic job.

Olara Otunnu talks about how he intends to bridge the gap between international politics and the needs of local people around the world.

The Interview brings you conversations with people shaping our world, from all over the world. The best interviews from the 麻豆社, including episodes with the UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres, South Africa鈥檚 Ambassador to the US Roelf Meyer and the author Maggie O鈥� Farrell. You can listen on the 麻豆社 World Service on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays at 0800 GMT. Or you can listen to The Interview as a podcast, out three times a week on 麻豆社 Sounds or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presenter: James Copnall
Producer: Sharon Hemans
Editor: Farhana Haider

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(Image: Olara Otunnu. Credit: Getty)