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A defector from North Korea says it is “mandatory” to watch public executions in the secretive state. Hyeonseo Lee, who witnessed her first execution at 7 years old, fled across the border into China aged 17. "It was shocking” said Lee as she described what she saw. "I didn’t know what was execution even at the time. When I went home I told my mum, what is that?” This clip is originally from 5 live Daily on Thursday 2 July 2015.