"The paradox about working as a visual artist is that it is a Ìýgregarious profession, which is usually carried out by people working alone. Every artist I know looks back with affection to their training, what we miss in our later careers is the comradeship and humour of art school life. ÌýThis is why RadioÌý4 is such a friend for artists as it Ìýprovides both stimulation and fun during the working day. I particularly enjoy In Our Own Time because it is so wonderfully esoteric and it provides the chance to be stretched by a sophisticated and intelligent conversation."